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Subject:	Re: address, critical thinking and "Jobs for Philosophers"
From:	"ennis, robert h" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:	AILACT DISCUSSION LIST <[log in to unmask]>
Date:	Mon, 1 Aug 2016 00:25:32 +0000
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Congratulations, Steve.

Bob
> On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:41 PM, Mark Weinstein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> We have been talking about this for decades. Congratulations Steve for doing what seemed unlikely if not impossible,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 7/31/16 3:52 PM, Peter Facione wrote:
>> Excellent news!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Wagner, Paul <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bravo!
>>> 
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: AILACT DISCUSSION LIST [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Siegel, Harvey [[log in to unmask]]
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:24 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: address, critical thinking and "Jobs for Philosophers"
>>> 
>>> Congratulations and well done, Steve!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 1:03 PM, Steven Patterson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> Just following up. Had a brief e-mail exchange with David Chalmers over the past week or so and there is now a "Critical Thinking" area at PhilPapers: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__philpapers.org_browse_critical-2Dthinking_&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=zGwPw3eDJ_p-o_yuNi1wdGh72xIQtoivceDXJSmZ_CA&e= . I've accepted their offer to edit the category.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll get started developing the category tomorrow (writing the basic description, going through the papers that are already classified there, etc.) tomorrow. Just wanted to pass along the good news.
>>>> 
>>>> Hopefully this takes us towards next steps for getting CT recognized as an AOS/AOC?
>>>> 
>>>> All best,
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _________________________
>>>> Steven W. Patterson, Ph.D.
>>>> Professor, Philosophy
>>>> Chair, Division of Letters
>>>> Marygrove College
>>>> 8425 W. McNichols Rd.
>>>> Detroit, MI 48224
>>>> USA
>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/swpatterson/
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__marygrove.academia.edu_StevenPatterson&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=3dkoPCQPc8KEjJkADZHn7lcimbvJrxr1I8cM8Krzrvc&e=
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: AILACT DISCUSSION LIST [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Fair, Frank [[log in to unmask]]
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 11:22 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: address, critical thinking and "Jobs for Philosophers"
>>>> 
>>>> Go for it, Steve.
>>>> 
>>>> Frank
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/8/16, 10:20 AM, "AILACT DISCUSSION LIST on behalf of Steven
>>>> Patterson" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Frank, all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I believe I can simply email David Chalmers and co. and ask for this. I
>>>>> think the case is an easy one to make.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> _________________________
>>>>> Steven W. Patterson, Ph.D.
>>>>> Professor, Philosophy
>>>>> Chair, Division of Letters
>>>>> Marygrove College
>>>>> 8425 W. McNichols Rd.
>>>>> Detroit, MI 48224
>>>>> USA
>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/swpatterson/
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__marygrove.academia.edu_StevenPatterson&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=3dkoPCQPc8KEjJkADZHn7lcimbvJrxr1I8cM8Krzrvc&e=
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: AILACT DISCUSSION LIST [[log in to unmask]] on
>>>>> behalf of Fair, Frank [[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 11:17 AM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: address, critical thinking and "Jobs for Philosophers"
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like Steve¹s suggestion for a subcategory of Critical Thinking to be
>>>>> added under Critical Reasoning in PhilPapers. That sounds like a handy way
>>>>> to start marking out a field of specialization. Plus those of us who
>>>>> teaching critical thinking classes year in and year out may find it a bit
>>>>> easier to locate relevant research.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who do we need to ³petition² to make the addition?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Frank Fair
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/8/16, 9:36 AM, "AILACT DISCUSSION LIST on behalf of Steven Patterson"
>>>>> <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> One place to start might be PhilPapers (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__philpapers.org_&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=zREgPNDgJuyop_lNnmnvjOhsZZtLFmO5uQfA2w4-ONo&e= ). I manage
>>>>>> the categories for Informal Logic, Argument, and Fallacies there and I
>>>>>> can say for sure that there is a lot of research on critical thinking out
>>>>>> there in philosophy on critical thinking. I see it all the time when I'm
>>>>>> doing my housekeeping for my categories on the site.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Right now at PhilPapers the closest thing to a critical thinking category
>>>>>> is a category called "Critical Reasoning" It has no definition at present
>>>>>> but it is distinguished from other sorts of research with 'critical' in
>>>>>> the title (e.g. Critical Race Theory') in a way that seems to mark it out
>>>>>> as a potentially good place for critical thinking papers to live. One
>>>>>> thing we might do (and I'd be willing to do this) is to ask for a
>>>>>> Critical Thinking subcategory to be added under Critical Reasoning.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Given that PhilPapers is a sister site to PhilJobs
>>>>>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__philjobs.org_&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=u6wOCrmm-ffSDqVDuHh7B429gjuHaU01QXXurTrkXQA&e= ), and given that PhilJobs is used by the APA to do
>>>>>> what the Jobs for Philosophers publication used to do, it seems that if
>>>>>> the research has a place to live, then having CT recognized at PhilPapers
>>>>>> might be one small step towards getting CT recognized as an AOC/AOS.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just a thought.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> _________________________
>>>>>> Steven W. Patterson, Ph.D.
>>>>>> Professor, Philosophy
>>>>>> Chair, Division of Letters
>>>>>> Marygrove College
>>>>>> 8425 W. McNichols Rd.
>>>>>> Detroit, MI 48224
>>>>>> USA
>>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/swpatterson/
>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__marygrove.academia.edu_StevenPatterson&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=3dkoPCQPc8KEjJkADZHn7lcimbvJrxr1I8cM8Krzrvc&e=
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> From: AILACT DISCUSSION LIST [[log in to unmask]] on
>>>>>> behalf of Siegel, Harvey [[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 10:00 AM
>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: address, critical thinking and "Jobs for Philosophers"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Jim! Bob¹s is a good question. Anyone have any good ideas? ‹Harvey
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2016, at 8:26 PM, ennis, robert h <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Jim and all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks, Jim, for clearing up a confusing situation. I hope I can
>>>>>>> remember AILACTD-L, including that the dash goes between the D and the
>>>>>>> L. My memory isn¹t as good as it used to be.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a question for discussion:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What can we do about the fact that critical thinking is not recognized
>>>>>>> as an area of competence or specialization by "Jobs for Philosophers"?
>>>>>>> Many philosophy jobs do include at least teaching critical thinking, and
>>>>>>> a number of topics considered by philosophers are relevant to what is
>>>>>>> taught in critical thinking, such as causality, inference to best
>>>>>>> explanation, speech acts, the fact-value distinction, etc.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bob Ennis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PS. By the way Jim, I would rather that you use the address I am using
>>>>>>> now than the one to which you sent your communication. The one I am
>>>>>>> using now seems to be more reliable and is more appropriate for the
>>>>>>> subject.
>>>>>>> 
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