I just think there is something missing in this debate and I would like to add my two poor and devalued Brazilian centavos. First of all, it's interesting that as journalists we keep following what can happen when mainstream media use blogs as authoritative information sources. However, I would like to admit here that I had a different reaction when the Edwardses made the announcement about the cancer situation last week. My concern, was with the content of the news and also with the way it was covered by the mainstream media. Why on earth is it so important for ordinary people to know in details about someone's cancer?? In this case, it's pretty obvious. Elizabeth is John Edward's wife, meaning she is a public figure and YES we can't deny it is news the fact that she has cancer and as a result could have changed her husband's decision to continue with the presidential campaign. Ok, that's it. No, of course it was not only it. The major publications in the country took advantage of it to create an unnecessary circus around something that should be covered with respectful discretion. Someone's cancer, is nobody's business. They made it public, because unfortunately, they had no option. Evidently, it was a political decision. That doesn't mean though there was need for this massive coverage emphasizing the disease, instead of focusing in John Edward's policies as a virtual presidential candidate. 

By the way, right now, as we speak, all serious journalists in this country should be investigating the candidates' records and their political and social policies in order to provide people with useful information. Headlines on diseases, or on how much black a candidate is, are effective to cause sensation and distraction, but a failure when it comes  to the achievement  of the supreme and rare goal of a serious journalism which is simply to inform people.

One more centavo and perhaps a serious proposal: Can we please, pay less attention to the mainstream media?? I know, I know it's almost impossible, because it is part of our jobs, bla, bla, bla. It's such an ordeal, sometimes!!! I feel like if we disregard the NYTimes or the tone of the accusatory reporter from CBS or ABC or FOX, or NBC or Globo or Televisa we would be able to learn much more about decency in journalism. 

The headline or oops!! the bottom line definitely is NOTHING GETS EASIER!!!!

Simone




On Mar 30, 2007, at 2:01 PM, Archie Bishop wrote:

Regarding the John and Elizabeth Edwards announcement, I have something related to add. On the Sunday following the announcement, Katie Couric interviewed them on 60 Minutes.  Couric was relentlessly accusatory towards them, as if the decision to continue with the campaign was cold-hearted and driven by ambition. Each time John and Elizabeth Edwards offered an answer they were remarkably straightforward, and even reminded Katie Couric that we're all going to die and we never know when, so no one can afford to live peeking over their shoulders looking for the grim reaper. Elizabeth Edwards also said that, even facing a cancer diagnosis, she thought it was better for her to embrace life than embrace the disease. They were quite eloquent, but Couric continued with her "some people say..." questions, all of which were prosecutorial.

I thought the Edwardses handled the situation gracefully and without any bristle at the barrage, but thought Couric had acted strangely, perhaps because she herself had a husband who died of cancer, and her own feelings may have tainted her journalistic judgement.

A day or two later I noticed an article on the New York Times website, which was about a furor that was erupting over Couric's behavior and line of questioning. Times online readers were invited to chime in with their thoughts about this.  There was a large number of comments, mostly critical of Couric.  I added one of my own as well.  A day later, when I looked to see whether my intervention had been "approved" and added to the discussion, I discovered that the online piece and the commentaries had disappeared from the site. When I searched for it on the Times' site search engine, nothing came up. The only piece left was an Associated Press article, much briefer and without any commentary.

I find it odd that the "Paper of Record" seems to have removed interchange from the record. It was particularly strange because some of the commentary noted that the Edwards campaign, the most left of the front runners, has been virtually ignored by the mainstream media, including the Times. It was only when cancer entered the picture, and doubts about the campaign continuing arose, that coverage began to grow. Once that had passed, the Edwards campaign (as opposed to Clinton/Obama, who continue to be covered as if they are the only contenders) has virtually disappeared again.  Even a public discussion about how the cancer story was framed on 60 minutes, and the political implications of that, seems to have been expunged from the record.

All the news that fits. I guess they ran out of space on their server.

If anyone can locate this public discussion on the Times site, please let me know. I will retract my line of questioning and apologize to the New York Times for raising this issue.

AB

On Mar 30, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Peter Parisi wrote:

Responding to a suggestion from Buddy Stein, I am forwarding this
interesting discussion of what can happen when mainstream media use
blogs as authoritative information sources. It appeared only on IMA-L
and applies directly to members of this list. -- Peter Parisi

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From: Gorelick, Steve <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mar 24, 2007 5:11 PM
Subject: [IMA] When Mainstream Media Use Blogs as Sources Without Attribution






When John Edwards and his wife announced the recurrence of her cancer,
I asked two of my classes to follow the subsequent coverage given that
we are reading Susan Sontag's seminal essays "Illness as Metaphor" and
AIDS and Its Metaphors." Sontag is concerned with the language and
metaphor we use to talk about illnesses like cancer, and with what our
linguistic choices reveal about deeply held attitudes.  We also have
been examining how people actually dealing with cancer negotiate a
cultural environment and mass media saturated with vocabulary and
ideology implying that cancer is inevitably catastrophic.



As I sat in my office reading all the breaking news bulletins, it
became clear that someone had it wrong. Some mainstream networks were
reporting that Edwards was suspending his campaign, some said he was
ending it, and others said he was continuing. (Some of you may
remember that Edwards visited Hunter last year, met with a number of
our students, and held several seminars.)



What happened?



The explanation turns out to be more than a little embarrassing for
the newspapers and television networks that, by and large, have
expressed great skepticism about blogs as reliable news sources. For
the most part they have decried the lack of editing and the lack of
fact checking. You can trust The New York Times, they argue, but why
and how can you trust some kid in Topeka using Wordpress.



As you will see in the AP story below, a number of the biggies were
relying on a blog as their sole source when they went with the story
that Edwards was suspending his campaign.



I want to be careful not to draw too much from this.  One story does
not prove anyone's argument about either the influence or the accuracy
of the blogosphere. In this case the blog was wrong, as were the
networks that took blog report at face value and reported it without
attribution. Sometimes the mainstream media and some of my favorite
newspapers blow it badly. What this does reveal, however, is that –
with all their dismissals of blogs – the "biggies" are willing to base
a fairly big story on the very blog-based sources that they have
complained cannot be monitored for accuracy.



Last August Columbia J-School Dean Nicholas Lemann wrote a fairly
condescending piece in the New Yorker called "Amateur Hour" that
cautioned about relying on blogs. While some of Lemann's concerns
about quality and editing and accuracy can't be easily dismissed (in
any medium), it now seems clear that – whatever the mainstream media
is publicly saying about blogs -- what they are doing with them is
reading them, using them, and basing stories on them. Given the AP
story below, it is at least fair to wonder how many other examples
there are of blog-reporting being used without attribution.







Web site apologizes for Edwards report

By David Bauder, AP Television Writer  |  March 22, 2007



NEW YORK --A reporter for the new Politico Web site apologized for
reporting that John Edwards was suspending his campaign for president
more than an hour before Edwards said Thursday he was staying in the
race.



The incorrect report rocketed through the media before Edwards held
his news conference announcing the recurrence of his wife's cancer.
Some outlets used Politico's information; others steered clear.



Ben Smith, a former New York Daily News reporter, posted the report on
his Politico Web log at 11:06 a.m. EDT. Quoting but not identifying
"an Edwards friend" as his source, Smith reported that Edwards was
suspending his campaign and may drop out completely because of
Elizabeth Edwards' cancer.



"There was never any discussion of suspending the campaign," Edwards
adviser Jennifer Palmieri said. She said the Edwardses invited about
half a dozen aides to their home to discuss how best to tell the
public about her diagnosis and their decision to stay in the race.



Smith, in a later post titled "Getting it Wrong," explained how he had
trusted a reliable source he had known for years. But he "unwisely"
wrote it without getting a second source, he said.



"When the campaign pushed back harder than I'd expected, I added that
information to the original item, but that doesn't undo the damage,"
Smith wrote. "My apologies to our readers for passing on bad
information."



The Politico, a Web site with a companion free tabloid distributed in
Washington, began in January with many respected political
journalists. It was founded by John Harris and Jim VandeHei, longtime
Washington Post journalists.



With news organizations waiting for a news conference that it had
known about for more than 12 hours without a substantive leak ahead of
time, Smith's report proved too hard for many to resist.



CNN cited the Politico report several times before Edwards' news
conference, but pulled back when correspondent Candy Crowley said
Edwards staffers were casting doubt on it.



While MSNBC did not cite the report on television, the Web site
MSNBC.com ran the information as a banner headline. MSNBC.com later
apologized, saying it had relied on Politico "and a source who spoke
to NBC."



CBS News, which has a partnership agreement with Politico, posted the
report on the CBS Web site without doing its own reporting, and later
corrected it, a spokeswoman said.



NBC News anchor Brian Williams delivered his own correction after the
network briefly interrupted regular programming for the Edwards news
conference.



"When we came on for this special report, we delivered two headlines
to you. Number one, that Mrs. Edwards' cancer had returned," he said.
"Sadly, that headline turned out to be correct. The second headline
was that John Edwards was ending or suspending his campaign for
president, and as we just heard from the former senator, he said this
campaign goes on. So that part of this story, at least for now, is
incorrect."



ABC News did not cite Politico, either on the air or Web, because its
own sources were leading the network in the other direction, said Jon
Banner, executive producer of "World News."



"The pressure is on to get these things right, especially when it
concerns someone's health," he said. "There's some sensitivity to
that."



Fox News Channel and The Associated Press also did not repeat the
Politico report, relying on their own reporters.



Harris, Smith's editor at Politico, was not immediately available for
comment. But he told Smith in an e-mail that his reporting was worth
sharing with readers, but only with the caution that the information
was fragmentary.



"We should not have made a flat, predictive assertion about what
Edwards was going to do," Harris wrote. "The lesson, which we both
know but re-learned, was the importance of precision."



The incident illustrates the danger faced by Politico, a Web site that
tries to combine the gossipy aspects of a Web log with the
authoritativeness of journalists, said Tom Rosenstiel, a former
political reporter and director of the Washington-based Project for
Excellence in Journalism.



"It doesn't have a lot of track record and it's still making first
impressions," Rosenstiel said. "This not a good first impression."



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Associated Press reporters Jake Coyle in New York and Nedra Pickler in
Washington contributed to this report.







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