Apologies: I'm still learning the ropes of working Gmail with the listserv. This list has not yet seen the full, original conversation on blogs as information sources. Steve's original post has circulated and so have recent comments by Stuart and Simone, but not some important comments in between by Josh Levy and Bernard Stein. The next thing I send will be that full conversation. -- Peter Parisi, Ph.D. Dept. of Film & Media Studies Hunter College 695 Park Avenue New York, NY 10021 212-772-4949 "The suffering itself is not so bad, it's the resentment against suffering that is the real pain." --Allen Ginsberg