We have been talking about this for decades. Congratulations Steve for doing what seemed unlikely if not impossible, Mark On 7/31/16 3:52 PM, Peter Facione wrote: > Excellent news! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 31, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Wagner, Paul <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Bravo! >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: AILACT DISCUSSION LIST [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Siegel, Harvey [[log in to unmask]] >> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:24 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: address, critical thinking and "Jobs for Philosophers" >> >> Congratulations and well done, Steve! >> >> >>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 1:03 PM, Steven Patterson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Just following up. Had a brief e-mail exchange with David Chalmers over the past week or so and there is now a "Critical Thinking" area at PhilPapers: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__philpapers.org_browse_critical-2Dthinking_&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=zGwPw3eDJ_p-o_yuNi1wdGh72xIQtoivceDXJSmZ_CA&e= . I've accepted their offer to edit the category. >>> >>> I'll get started developing the category tomorrow (writing the basic description, going through the papers that are already classified there, etc.) tomorrow. Just wanted to pass along the good news. >>> >>> Hopefully this takes us towards next steps for getting CT recognized as an AOS/AOC? >>> >>> All best, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> _________________________ >>> Steven W. Patterson, Ph.D. >>> Professor, Philosophy >>> Chair, Division of Letters >>> Marygrove College >>> 8425 W. McNichols Rd. >>> Detroit, MI 48224 >>> USA >>> www.linkedin.com/in/swpatterson/ >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__marygrove.academia.edu_StevenPatterson&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=3dkoPCQPc8KEjJkADZHn7lcimbvJrxr1I8cM8Krzrvc&e= >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: AILACT DISCUSSION LIST [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Fair, Frank [[log in to unmask]] >>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 11:22 AM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: address, critical thinking and "Jobs for Philosophers" >>> >>> Go for it, Steve. >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> On 7/8/16, 10:20 AM, "AILACT DISCUSSION LIST on behalf of Steven >>> Patterson" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Frank, all, >>>> >>>> I believe I can simply email David Chalmers and co. and ask for this. I >>>> think the case is an easy one to make. >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> _________________________ >>>> Steven W. Patterson, Ph.D. >>>> Professor, Philosophy >>>> Chair, Division of Letters >>>> Marygrove College >>>> 8425 W. McNichols Rd. >>>> Detroit, MI 48224 >>>> USA >>>> www.linkedin.com/in/swpatterson/ >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__marygrove.academia.edu_StevenPatterson&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=3dkoPCQPc8KEjJkADZHn7lcimbvJrxr1I8cM8Krzrvc&e= >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: AILACT DISCUSSION LIST [[log in to unmask]] on >>>> behalf of Fair, Frank [[log in to unmask]] >>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 11:17 AM >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: address, critical thinking and "Jobs for Philosophers" >>>> >>>> I like Steve¹s suggestion for a subcategory of Critical Thinking to be >>>> added under Critical Reasoning in PhilPapers. That sounds like a handy way >>>> to start marking out a field of specialization. Plus those of us who >>>> teaching critical thinking classes year in and year out may find it a bit >>>> easier to locate relevant research. >>>> >>>> Who do we need to ³petition² to make the addition? >>>> >>>> Frank Fair >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/8/16, 9:36 AM, "AILACT DISCUSSION LIST on behalf of Steven Patterson" >>>> <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> One place to start might be PhilPapers (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__philpapers.org_&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=zREgPNDgJuyop_lNnmnvjOhsZZtLFmO5uQfA2w4-ONo&e= ). I manage >>>>> the categories for Informal Logic, Argument, and Fallacies there and I >>>>> can say for sure that there is a lot of research on critical thinking out >>>>> there in philosophy on critical thinking. I see it all the time when I'm >>>>> doing my housekeeping for my categories on the site. >>>>> >>>>> Right now at PhilPapers the closest thing to a critical thinking category >>>>> is a category called "Critical Reasoning" It has no definition at present >>>>> but it is distinguished from other sorts of research with 'critical' in >>>>> the title (e.g. Critical Race Theory') in a way that seems to mark it out >>>>> as a potentially good place for critical thinking papers to live. One >>>>> thing we might do (and I'd be willing to do this) is to ask for a >>>>> Critical Thinking subcategory to be added under Critical Reasoning. >>>>> >>>>> Given that PhilPapers is a sister site to PhilJobs >>>>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__philjobs.org_&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=u6wOCrmm-ffSDqVDuHh7B429gjuHaU01QXXurTrkXQA&e= ), and given that PhilJobs is used by the APA to do >>>>> what the Jobs for Philosophers publication used to do, it seems that if >>>>> the research has a place to live, then having CT recognized at PhilPapers >>>>> might be one small step towards getting CT recognized as an AOC/AOS. >>>>> >>>>> Just a thought. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> _________________________ >>>>> Steven W. Patterson, Ph.D. >>>>> Professor, Philosophy >>>>> Chair, Division of Letters >>>>> Marygrove College >>>>> 8425 W. McNichols Rd. >>>>> Detroit, MI 48224 >>>>> USA >>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/swpatterson/ >>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__marygrove.academia.edu_StevenPatterson&d=CwIF-g&c=y2w-uYmhgFWijp_IQN0DhA&r=srcAKVXGlgq-EGy4yMzdPmGUox7sOGJn6ivEUxBrRCY&m=SQizdrpHNaT_4NbXyJ3mWbEyo0m-lTyjOyokULUX7UA&s=3dkoPCQPc8KEjJkADZHn7lcimbvJrxr1I8cM8Krzrvc&e= >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> From: AILACT DISCUSSION LIST [[log in to unmask]] on >>>>> behalf of Siegel, Harvey [[log in to unmask]] >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 10:00 AM >>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>> Subject: Re: address, critical thinking and "Jobs for Philosophers" >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Jim! Bob¹s is a good question. Anyone have any good ideas? ‹Harvey >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 7, 2016, at 8:26 PM, ennis, robert h <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jim and all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Jim, for clearing up a confusing situation. I hope I can >>>>>> remember AILACTD-L, including that the dash goes between the D and the >>>>>> L. My memory isn¹t as good as it used to be. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a question for discussion: >>>>>> >>>>>> What can we do about the fact that critical thinking is not recognized >>>>>> as an area of competence or specialization by "Jobs for Philosophers"? >>>>>> Many philosophy jobs do include at least teaching critical thinking, and >>>>>> a number of topics considered by philosophers are relevant to what is >>>>>> taught in critical thinking, such as causality, inference to best >>>>>> explanation, speech acts, the fact-value distinction, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob Ennis >>>>>> >>>>>> PS. By the way Jim, I would rather that you use the address I am using >>>>>> now than the one to which you sent your communication. 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